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Randy Starkey's avatar

On this point... "You cannot have a Christian state without a state church" I think that's too narrow as stated. Now by Christian state I would not mean Christian nationalism, but rather a state that is sublimely influenced by primarily Christian values. It seems there is no question America from its founding forward (and now waning) was primarily functioning with assumed Christian principles and values, and yet without any "state church". I think this is the way it should be.

And it becomes separately the job of the church via evangelism and discipleship to maintain a general Christian ethos to maintain said values (which we are not doing great at). This of course need not in any way take away freedoms of other faiths.

So separation of church and state are maintained, but not so much separation of God and state as we are called to be salt and light. Influencers and prophets, but not kings.

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Hourik's avatar

Excellent point about Muslims! All the Muslims that I come in contact with have very very strong family units. They are modest. They don’t drink. And they not only value but practice family values far more than we do in most American families. They take care of their elderly. In turn, the elderly have a valued place of mentorship with the young. But it’s not expedient to mention these things when we’ve framed all Muslims as terrorists.

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