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May 14, 2021Liked by Michael F. Bird

What a wonderful conversation even if slightly triggering for me. IMHO: theologian,Dr Cherith Nordling, is someone to add to this conversation.

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May 14, 2021Liked by Michael F. Bird

This was a fantastic interview. Thank you for bringing these great women together. I've got two of those three books. "Jesus and John Wayne" described my Southern California Evangelical upbringing perfectly. I was brought up listening to James Dobson and being brought up in the military-industrial complex DeMez mentions. The spiritual abuse in our churches is unbelievable.

The next step is to talk about the spiritual abuse surrounding DIVORCE in our churches. Our churches pressure women to stay in abusive marriages and use the Bible to batter them.

I'd recommend THE LIFE-SAVING DIVORCE, which takes the topic from an Evangelical standpoint and critiques the same things these three women are talking about: patriarchy, male control of Scriptural understanding, and female subservience.

This book has 150 five-star reviews on Amazon. https://amzn.to/3aH5Dfp

--Gretchen Baskerville, gretchen.baskerville@gmail.com

Interviews: www.lifesavingdivorce.com/interviews

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Beth Allison Barr puts the nail in the coffin of patriarchy, which has been dishonestly branded "Complementarianism." An incredibly disingenuous word. Just say patriarchy. The entire bible is read through the lens of one obscure passage in I timothy 2:11ff. So Phoebe, Deborah, Junia the Apostle are all explained away because we already know they cannot be women leaders. The arguments now sound ridiculous.

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Thoroughly enjoyed this as well, thank you!

Would also add The Great Sex Rescue to the conversation for how a male-centric perspective has permeated and tainted Christian teachings regarding sex (with significantly negative outcomes for women, based on survey results):

The Great Sex Rescue: The Lies You've Been Taught and How to Recover What God Intended https://www.amazon.com/dp/1540900827/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_N4MNHJ2RFQQF74NKGMFB

https://tolovehonorandvacuum.com/great-sex-rescue/

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Loved listening to this. Loved reading each of these books.

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